My posts are generally driven by things which have happened the evening before I write, however last night it seemed as though the exact opposite were true and my evening was driven by the preceding post regarding Satan and football.
Last night I was sitting in the regulars’ corner (my preferred mid week place at the hatch having been usurped) with Daryl and Peter, doing the crossword and watching Arsenal v. Newcastle United in the Carling Cup 5th Round.
And as often happens while watching a fairly uninspiring game, the conversation turned to more general football discussion.
Those football discussions which are entirely pointless, grossly subjective and hugely enjoyable. Greatest player of all time, best centre back ever seen, whether Glen Hoddle should have won more caps, favourite Arsenal player and so on and so forth.
You know, classic pub stuff.
And it struck me that the encyclopaedic knowledge which so many blokes (and quite a few women) have of football is really quite astounding. I mean, football is something which blokes (and many women) have been studying and thinking about their entire lives, such that the average bloke is probably as expert in the history and nuances of football as David Starky is about the Regency Period.
Your average bloke will be able to spend an hour eloquently discussing whether, relatively speaking, Tostoa was better than Bergkamp, or whether Rivelino was better than Garrincha. Equally, he/she could trot out Brazil ’s entire starting line up in the 1970 World Cup final without missing a step, name the England assistant manager in ’66, and, in reverse order, list the five highest scorers in World Cup history.
In themselves, these are obscure pieces of knowledge. I guarantee that you don’t know that much about anything else.
[Quickly – off the top of your head: Who did Chris Woods spend most of his career playing for?
Exactly. Rangers.
Why do you know that? Really, think about it, why have you retained that piece of completely pointless knowledge about a sometime England number 2?]
That’s no less an obscure a piece of knowledge than knowing the code names for the two parted planned Allied invasion of Japan in 1946 or knowing the start to end dates of Belisarius’ Visigoth campaign. It’s just that so many people share the same knowledge that we take it for granted.
[Which team was Kevin Keegan playing for when he was twice named European Player of the Year?
Zing. Hamburg
See what I mean?]
Anyway, this is all beside the point (actually, come to think of it, did I even have one?), my point is (yep, there it is), is that talking about football in the pub – and more specifically those conversations which start, ‘alright then, name your all time World IX’ or ‘who would you say is the greatest batsmen of all time’ or fly half, or spin bowler, or F1 driver or whatever, are a vital part of the very essence of what makes pubs great.
There doesn't have to be a resolution - and there doesn't even have to be a point. It can just be a few hours spent at the bar thinking and talking about greatness in days gone by.